General Category => Wheels & Tires => Topic started by: illMATTic on February 14, 2013, 10:47:36 AM

Title: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: illMATTic on February 14, 2013, 10:47:36 AM
As you already know, the old stock bearings are probably pitted and worn. I have replaced them with a set of sealed NSK R8Z bearings. I also have a new 1/2" axle.
The bearings measure 1 1/8"x 3/8" with a 1/2 hole. I used a roughly a 1 1/4" diameter shim that was 1/16th" thick. There is also a spacer between the bearings. These numbers are approx. and may differ a couple thousandths.

I am in the process of doing this for my front Worksman brake drum as well.

I think I have like 20-25 bucks into the rear.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/boombip/20130214_131538_zps3bc30ba8.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/boombip/20130214_132854_zps92c4880d.jpg)
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Mike Sal on February 14, 2013, 11:00:16 AM
FYI, anyone who needs replacement 1/4" balls for their original bearings, just let me know.  I've got hundreds of them.
mike Sal
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: illMATTic on February 14, 2013, 11:05:33 AM
My axle, bearings and races were all pitted. I know loose bearings are less money but I get tired of them falling out if I take the wheel off.

If my race was still good, I would have just replaced the loose bearings.
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: oil-lamp on February 14, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
Will you be offering a detailed drawings for both front and rear so we could have some made?¿?    ???
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: illMATTic on February 14, 2013, 01:37:25 PM
I will do my best. The problem is, I do not have the exact measurment for the rear shim any longer.

The parts I used for the front Worksman drum brake, are all off the shelf parts I found at www.treatland.tv (http://www.treatland.tv)They are a moped parts supplier. The bearing swap is pretty common for them.
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: dw1973 on September 29, 2013, 09:33:17 AM
I will do my best. The problem is, I do not have the exact measurment for the rear shim any longer.

The parts I used for the front Worksman drum brake, are all off the shelf parts I found at www.treatland.tv (http://www.treatland.tv)They are a moped parts supplier. The bearing swap is pretty common for them.

Sure would like to convert mine over the winter.   Any updates?   Any issues since install?

Thanks,

Dave
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: pd on September 29, 2013, 09:53:32 AM
I second the interest in an update . Thanks .

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: illMATTic on September 29, 2013, 07:15:05 PM
Everything seems to be ok. I have only a few miles on it. As long as you use a quality bearing it should last.
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: pd on September 29, 2013, 08:50:27 PM
"I have only a few miles on it."

Hmm , I guess they really don't float to well . I mean not like a boat ... ;)

JK . :D

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: illMATTic on September 30, 2013, 06:43:15 AM
I have worked on this bike more in the past week than I have all summer.  :P
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Bruce on December 11, 2013, 08:12:58 AM
arent worksman's sealed bearings anyhow?  why did you need a shim to fit the bearing?
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Ricks on December 11, 2013, 09:36:12 AM
arent worksman's sealed bearings anyhow?  why did you need a shim to fit the bearing?

Maybe he isn't using the worksman axle???   How long is a worksman axle anyway?  What is the OD of a worksman axle?  If I was going to use worksman wheels, I think I would just buy the rims and lace them to the Simplex hubs.
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Bruce on December 11, 2013, 12:21:25 PM
I dont have one right here to measure but the drums etc are used on plenty of bikes (motored). i think the simplex is what?  4 3/4?   im sure my whizzer is that and they fit those.  Simplex drums are bigger, I know.
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: admin on December 11, 2013, 02:20:27 PM
I dont have one right here to measure but the drums etc are used on plenty of bikes (motored). i think the simplex is what?  4 3/4?   im sure my whizzer is that and they fit those.  Simplex drums are bigger, I know.

I'm thinking the axles might be too short for a simplex frame.  Someone that has a worksman wheel needs to measure the axle length.
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: illMATTic on December 11, 2013, 02:25:14 PM
A worksman axle is only 3/8". I have a 1/2" axle on the rear and a 12mm on the front.
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: Bruce on December 11, 2013, 03:24:26 PM
Okay..but the kit from treats brings em up to 1/2" ?
Title: Re: Rear sealed bearing conversion
Post by: illMATTic on December 12, 2013, 12:33:10 PM
No. This rear axle conversion was done on the fly. I had a friend turn the items on his lathe. 

The other thread I have for the front states the 12 mm axle was purchased from treatland. I found this after I did the rear.