General Category => Wheels & Tires => Topic started by: socalsimplex on October 03, 2014, 06:49:54 PM

Title: new source for tires
Post by: socalsimplex on October 03, 2014, 06:49:54 PM

http://voltagecycles.storenvy.com/collections/100154-all-products/products/495993-project-346-26-x-2-5-balloon-tire-black


I like the look of the simplex tires available through Summit racing.  I'm trying to check what the width was on the original tires. I found a site that sells something that looks very appropriate for a Servi Cycle. Please check the link and let me know what you think.

might be worth a shot for $50 a tire.




Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: MrMayor on October 03, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
That is a great deal if the tires are any good.  I just bought 4 Servi-Cycle tires (26x2.5) form Summit which were $126 each, free shipping.  They were drop shipped from Coker in Tennessee.  They are made in Viet Nam and look like original molds with the Servi-Cycle lettering down the middle of the tread and on the sides too.  The sidewalls are as thick as the tread part.  The same tires are always on Ebay for $10 more and with shipping added from Tennessee.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: socalsimplex on October 03, 2014, 10:03:50 PM
ya im not sure which route to go with it yet. I found them available stateside (I believe they are produced across the pond) at www.thecruisershopcampbell.com for $45 a pop.... i wish they made them in 24" so i could try them out on my wife's 48 safti cycle.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: Ricks on October 04, 2014, 05:02:48 AM
Someone buy a pair and give us a report.  What I have found on the bicycle tires that I have seen used on the Simplex, they are flimsy.  To me, the savings is not worth the peace of mind that a good tire provides.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: carryall on October 04, 2014, 07:53:03 AM
Been very happy with the H.D. tires and tubes I put on this summer.  I've got over 200 miles on them and show no signs of wear.  After pressurizing them to 60lbs, I have never needed to add air and no way they are going to "peel off" cornering with the super stiff sidewalls/wire bead.  Down side is they are a modern tread design and not ribbed look.  I have an original Servicycle tire I got with the bike, and comparing them side by side, my new tires are ALOT thicker than the originals, especially the sidewalls.  But the tire issue is a lot like the oil issue...Each person has their own opinion/bias as to what they prefer.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: Ricks on October 04, 2014, 08:11:43 AM
Carryall, what brand are those tires?  Also, what size? 

I used Heavy duty cruiser bike tires in 26 x  2.125  on my Simplex 3 wheel truck,  and I found them lacking in durability and they are not really wide enough for my liking.  I did see a 26 x 2.35 cruiser style tire at Portland that looked pretty good, but I still think the sidewalls are lacking.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: carryall on October 04, 2014, 08:29:57 AM
Schwinn Whizzer in 26 X 2.125.  I'm unable to find the exact item # tho.  I got the pair plus the tubes, (which are top of the line regardless of what type tires you go with) for $95 delivered.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: MrMayor on October 05, 2014, 10:02:38 PM
The Simplex reproduction/Coker tires install easily on stock Simplex wheels.  But today I found that they are a real pain to get them mounted on 26" Worksman wheels for another bike that I am building. 
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: Ricks on October 06, 2014, 04:38:29 AM
The Simplex reproduction/Coker tires install easily on stock Simplex wheels.  But today I found that they are a real pain to get them mounted on 26" Worksman wheels for another bike that I am building. 

On the steel wheels?  I have heard they are hard to get on to the Worksman Alloy wheels.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: MrMayor on October 06, 2014, 07:44:50 AM
You are correct.  The Simplex tires are difficult to install on my alloy Worksman wheels but easy to install on stock Simplex steel wheels.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: Ricks on October 06, 2014, 08:17:24 AM
You are correct.  The Simplex tires are difficult to install on my alloy Worksman wheels but easy to install on stock Simplex steel wheels.

I have been told they go right on the Worksman steel wheels also.  The Cubine brothers used Worksman steel wheels on their reproduction bikes, and I doubt they would have used them if the tires were hard to install.

I seem to remember reading about this topic on a motor bicycling forum in the past.  I guess the OD of the alloy rim is a little larger than the steel one they make.  Can you measure the alloy rim for me? I would like to know how much bigger they are.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: Gramps on October 06, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
Thanks for the info Mr. Mayor I just ordered two.
If anyone is interested save time and use this quick link
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-74778
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: MrMayor on October 06, 2014, 05:25:17 PM
Here are some outside dimensions I got by using a large caliper directly over the axle centerline:
Worksman aluminum wheel: 1 3/4" wide, 22 11/16" diameter
Stock Simplex steel wheel:  2 7/8" wide, 22 9/16" diameter

So the Worksman aluminum wheel, even though it is narrower, has a bigger diameter by 1/8"
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: MrMayor on October 06, 2014, 05:33:11 PM
BTW, the motorized bike guys are using 24" Worksman aluminum wheels with Avon motorcycle tires for about the same outside diameter and a much better quality tire.  Scott at SilverStateCycles.com sells them.
I bought expensive Maxxis Hookworm tires (26"x2.5") but now have them for sale, unused, due to the modern tread pattern that I just could not live with.  They were recommended as the strongest 26" tire out there.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: Ricks on October 06, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Thanks for the info on the alloy rims.  I wonder what a steel workman rim is?  Anyone have one to measure? 

1/8" doesn't seem like much.  I wonder if the "ledge" on the inside of the alloy rim is higher, not allowing the tire to sit down inside the rim as deep?
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: oil-lamp on October 06, 2014, 07:19:35 PM
MrMayor, post a pic of the tread of the tires you are wanting to part with. I will be needing some soon.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: MrMayor on October 06, 2014, 07:25:11 PM
I'm jammed up for the next 3 days.  You could go to Google Images, type in "Maxxis Hookworm" for a bunch of pics. Thx.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: pd on October 07, 2014, 09:58:04 AM
Here ya go , Reese ...

Maxxis Hookworm Tire

(http://www.biketrailershop.com/cart/images/maxxis-tire-16a-M.jpg)

Pete . :)
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: oil-lamp on October 07, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Yea I ran across some photos on the web this morning but I've been in one of those days at work where everything just doesn't work like it should. That and everybody that's around me are stupid and lazy. I was going to ask what does he want for them cause I think there going to look right on my stretched amd lowered bike.  8)
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: pd on October 08, 2014, 12:48:35 PM
We all have days like that , Reese .

Pete . :)
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: MrMayor on October 09, 2014, 02:38:37 PM
Don't forget to get their recommended tubes from Summit also.  The quality seems good, with double jam nuts to hold the tube on the rim.
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: oil-lamp on October 09, 2014, 03:43:55 PM
Well MrMayor do you still have those tires for sale? If so how much?
Title: Re: new source for tires
Post by: MrMayor on October 09, 2014, 04:22:41 PM
They retail for about $40/per tire plus tax and shipping...so I have about $100 in them.  To get them out of here...both tires for $65.00 plus shipping.  (I might have added Kevlar fabric inside, which I would donate). 
As you can tell, I hate flats.  Just send me a pm if interested.  I might be able to ship them with just a label on the tires.