General Category => Buy, Sell, Trade => Topic started by: Freedom Auctions on April 13, 2014, 07:52:07 AM
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We are pleased to announced that the final remaining specimen from the Gary Wollard estate will go to auction on Friday, April 25th, 2014.
This is a 1940's trike that was purpose-themed for the 1992 New Orleans Saints Vs. Buffalo Bills for the Christmas Day game. The bike carried Santa Claus and Archie Manning to mid-field. The bike is currently 99% complete and is in excellent condition.
The family originally wanted to keep this bike but has since decided to let it go. Many of this board's members and the network of Simplex enthusiasts participated in the auction of the largest Simplex collection of it's kind back in February 2013. We thank all who attended and encourage you to check out the photographs of this bike at the link below.
Absentee bids are welcome by calling in advance of the auction. This is a one of a kind bike and sure to be the showpiece of any collection.
Auction Date: Friday, April 25th, 2014 at 6pm eastern time.
Where: 1601 Desoto Road, Sarasota, Florida
Contact: 941-725-2166
Link to auction information: www.freedomauctions.com
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Kinda goofy...wonder if it has more value switched back to original or as this cartoon bike
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I guess that would depend on if you were a fan of either team and outcome of that game . ;)
Pete . :)
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I've seen this truck when I visited the Wollard home. It was nicely done. Gary always had the dream of being "Mr Simplex" to the world & having the bike at that game did get him a lot of media attention. I'll bet there is some hometown interest in it and won't be surprised if it doesn't wind up back in New Orleans. I was a little surprised the family kept it in the first place (maybe they thought they could sell it to someone in Louisiana themselves).
Mike Sal
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Gary and Adam did take this bike to a Saint's game. I have seen the picture of Adam riding Archie Manning on this bike. I am sure that this sale is more a matter of how or where to store it in Bradenton than anything else. I wonder if Chris (Gary's other son) kept one of the automatics. I guess that this auction marks the final end of Gary's collection!!! Kind of a sad thought for me, personally.
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When I had spoken with Adam before the first auction, he told me that they all had kept 1 bike each. I also had the impression that he and Chris didn't have any passion for these bikes, but were holding onto them more in memory of their dad than anything else.
I am of the opinion that the truck would be worth more as a restored truck than as a "cartoon" bike.
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I just looked at the pictures the auction company posted, and this is an automatic. This truck is a 1953 or later. If they would post the engine and frame numbers we could determine an actual year of manufacture.
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My buddy is gonna be at the auction
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Announcement...We are close to auction day when the final Simplex from the estate of Gary Wollard will roll across the block.
Absentee bids are welcome by calling prior to the auction. You may contact us at 941-725-2166
Telephone bidding can be enabled on a first come, first serve basis and by reaching out to us prior to auction day. You may contact us at 941-725-2166.
Live online bidding is enabled by clicking this link. The Simplex is lot #101 if you're searching. Link: http://www.auctionzip.com/aflive.html?method=getCatalogLots&catalogref=QLLRP6S48L
You may also find information about this auction at www.freedomauctions.com
And lastly, this is a public auction an all are invited to attend the live auction. The auction will be held at 1601 Desoto Road, Sarasota, Florida. Hotel accomodations are nearby. The auction is at 6pm on Friday, April 25th. Special preview will be held at 2pm on auction day.
Thanks for reading.
www.freedomauctions.com
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This went for $2600 tonight...plus auction fees..so about $3000 total....ken bought the box of parts that was there...this and that in it.
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Seems a fairly low price . I think it probably would have gone for more had they offered it at the original auction .
Pete . :)
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Maybe someone here got it...I think it sold online...not to someone there
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According to the auction website it sold for $2500. IMO, if that truck was restored to original, and it would be worth at least $10,000.
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I was bidding online and actually had bid higher than the $2,500 it sold for. When I called the auctioneer they said it went to someone "on the floor". Something didn't sound right but there's not much I can do about it.
Vince
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Ken was right there and wasn't sure what happened but thought it went online...I think someone got an awfully good deal.
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Ken was right there and wasn't sure what happened but thought it went online.then today he said floor..if so,Vince wasn't treated fairly...I think someone got an awfully good deal.
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Your friends observations are interesting. There was no question that I was the high bidder. As I wasn't there I don't know what happened or why it was changed. This is the second time something like this has happened to me. Very frustrating but not much I can do about it.
Vince
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"This is the second time something like this has happened to me. Very frustrating but not much I can do about it."
From / At the same place Vince ?
Pete . :)
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I was bidding online and actually had bid higher than the $2,500 it sold for. When I called the auctioneer they said it went to someone "on the floor". Something didn't sound right but there's not much I can do about it.
Vince
I got that same bullshit answer on some parts from the original auction! It said I won, but when the invoice came, those parts were not included!
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I'm sorry you guys had to go through what you did . It stinks .
After that^ , I will not bother with Freedom Auctions . They are obviously less than reputable .
Pete . :)
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Pete,
I'm not sure who the auctioneer was the first time that this happened but I do remember it was an auctioneer in Florida. Now you have me wondering? It shouldn't be to hard for me to figure out who that auctioneer was. I've left this auctioneer several voice mails and still haven't gotten a call back. I think this speaks to their integrity. What is really frustrating is this auctioneer posted this auction on this website to spur interest in this auction and then they pull this crap.
Vince
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If you were bidding on Gary Wollard Estate items in the first auction you mention , it was the same auction house . If I recall it was feruary ? 2013
I wasn't happy at the first auction . They hyped up the Simplex auction which was probably to much for a one day auction . Then put it off till mid day or later after many other unrelated(to Simplex) items . They had way to much stuff for one day .
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Hello All...My name is Brian Hollifield, owner, operator and auctioneer of record for Freedom Auction Company, based in Sarasota, Florida. I am replying at this time to set the record straight.
In response to the various posts...
First of all, I am full of integrity.
Second, I want to acquaint everyone with the concept of an "auction". An auction is held to solicit the next highest bid until no further advance is made and hence the highest bidder wins the item. Last time I checked, we were in the business to sell to the highest bidder, not the lowest bidder. Does one actually think that we would withhold the acceptance of a higher bid? Really?
I know most people think there is some conspiracy against them and the world is out to screw them but please, not the case here. We posted the information about this auction on this particular website because we felt the "experts" might want to know about the sale and would like the opportunity to participate. I want to thank all those who bid online and especially thank all those who either drove down or flew in to participate.
You must remember, we utilize a third party service for internet auctions. We did not receive any further bids on lot 101 beyond the final price and therefore the item was sold. In this case, it was sold to the floor. If another bid did not come in when one submitted a bid, I can only blame it on the technology. Everyone expects things to work perfectly 100% of the time. It doesn't work that way. I am sorry if you missed out on an opportunity to bid again. Do not think for a second that your bid was ignored.
For the record, Vince, you left me one message, not several. I called you right away. Also, impossible for you to bid in a $50 increment as it is not even offered. Also, impossible for you to "Type-in" a bid. Bid button enabled. We offered telephone bidding and absentee bidding if you felt you were certain to be the high bidder. In this case, I would have been on a plane.
I am grateful for all those who participated in our auctions to liquidate the Wollard Estate. There have been many on this board who have been very gracious with information, stories and more. This is the final phase of the Wollard Estate and I did not want a couple of complainers who don't see the back end of things and think we "pulled some crap" to taint what has been an exciting journey into the world of Simplex.
I suggest that if anyone has any further complaint, call me directly at 941-725-2166 instead of complaining or posting here.
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Exact same "Technology" excuse I heard the last time! LOL All I know is the computer had me marked as the winner of a batch of flywheels. When they were not included on the invoice, I called and was told they were sold to someone in attendance, even though I had the high bid when the auction closed. Maybe you should look into another company to run the online website.
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Technology fails them once....they should dump it....like he says..why sell for less
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That 3rd party service appears to have a rather high 'failure' rate . Out of this small group there's 3 instances .
Seemingly , it's not a concern as I see no remorse for past failures or any indication of an attempt to rectify any future failures .
That's a big problem .
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Technology fails them once....they should dump it....like he says..why sell for less
I agree, why sell for less, but I WAS THE HIGH BIDDER, according to the computer auction. I would have bid higher if I was not already the high bid. Am I supposed to bid against myself?
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I don't want to continue to litigate this here but clearly there was something not right with this auction. For those of you who have used online bidding you know when you are the highest bidder. As Rick said earlier, I am not going to continue to bid against myself. The "technology" indicated I was the high bidder. I have participated in online bidding for over 4 years now and have had only two bad experiences.
Regardless of what Mr. Hollifield says I left two voice messages and also left a message with one of his staff immediately following the sale of lot 101. I did not get a call back. I think he felt obligated to return my call only after seeing the posts on this website. Further, his comment that if I was a seriously interested bidder I should have been on a "plane" shows his disregard and lack of concern for online bidders. I'll say it one last time, what happened was not right and Mr. Hollifield did nothing to try and remedy the situation.
Vince
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Vince, I bet Brian has no idea that you already own the nicest restored 3 wheel truck in the world! I find his post to be very defensive, and I don't think he has any interest in getting to the cause of his "technology" problem.
Now, I would love top find out who bought it, and see if they will get on here and post some pictures and engine and frame numbers. It was most definitely not the 1940's that Freedom Auctions was selling it as.
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ken took a bunch of pics of it and measured everything he could...he forgot to check the number though. When he gets back ill swipe his pics and data
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Maybe the motor # might be visible on one of those pics .
Pete . :)
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Rick,
I hope whoever bought it gets on here as well and shares that information. He definitely got a great deal and I don't hold anything against him personally. Just don't like the way it happened.
Vince
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I don't have a dog in that fight, but I've got to say that simply based on the response Freedom Auctions felt was necessary to post here -I- will never do business with them. Period. They can't possibly sell something that I want bad enough to subject myself to that kind of treatment and patronizing.
"Second, I want to acquaint everyone with the concept of an 'auction.'" This, Freedom Auctions, is about the absolute dumbest thing that you could have possibly said if you wanted to maintain any sense of professionalism and any credibility with this crowd. As if we don't all know how auctions work...yeah right. What BS.
The third party service that is quick to be blamed may have had issues on this particular auction day (I have no way to know for sure), but let me say this: I have bid in auctions online through that service several times without issue. Many, many auction houses use them. Hundreds? Thousands? Whatever it is, it's a lot. The service is "mainstream," for sure. For the claim to be made that the 3rd party technology has been the issue every time is certainly suspect.
A truly professional auction company would have NEVER come onto a forum like this to "set the record straight" in a public setting. Buyer-Seller-Bidder issues should all get worked out behind the scenes, so *news flash* this makes the auction house look bad, not the bidder who was essentially 'talking' with friends here about what happened. The auction company is the outsider, not the bidder, who is a known entity to this community. Something for Freedom Auctions to think about the next time they feel the need to jump online to fight a war of words...resist the temptation and just don't do it.
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Hello Everyone,
I am the winning bidder and owner of the Saints bike that has been discussed in this forum. I actually found this forum while researching the bike, before and after making the purchase.
The first time I saw this bike was the first time I ever attended an auction at Freedom Auctions, which was about a month or so ago. The night I attended, Freedom was auctioning some sports memoribilia and when I was paying for my winning items, I saw the Saints bike in their lobby. Because of it's uniqueness, I decided to do some research after which I determined I wanted to add it to my collection. The night the Saints bike was auctioned, I attended, with my girlfriend, with the sole purpose of bidding on the bike. I believe there was one other person in the audience that was biddiing as well as possibly some online activity.
I hope the information I've provided will answer any quesitons that some individuals had about the person who purchased the bike. I will try and post some pictures of the bike over the next week or so as well and any identification numbers.
Thanks,
Rich
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Rich,
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on acquiring a cool and rare bike. I was the on-line bidder that was bidding against you and felt something was not right during the auction as the on-line service indicated that I was the high bidder. That's water under the bridge. You'll find this forum extremely helpful and the guys very knowledgable.
Look forward to seeing and learning more about this bike.
Vince
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Hello Rich and Welcome to the forum community . Enjoy your truck and the time you spend with us here.
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Welcome Rich. :)
Pete . :)
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I'm bringing up this old post as I'm the individual that purchased this cycle when it was sold at auction a year ago. I hate to admit it, but I purchased this cycle because I collect sports memorabilia and when I saw this at Freedom Auction, I thought it was one of the coolest sports items I had seen and wanted to add it to my collection. The cycle has been kept in my garage in the same exact condition as when I purchased it. The only time it has been moved out of the garage was twice when I was taking some pictures of it or when I moved things around. I'm sorry to say, but I now realize that I do not have enough room to properly display the bike as I had intended.
With that being said, I am considering listing this on Craigslist as well as eBay, however before doing so, I want to see if anyone on this site has any interest. While my price is obviously higher than what I paid (as documented in this posting), I feel that not only is there a value for the bike but also from a sports memorabilia standpoint. In fact, I am also considering contacting the Manning's to see if they would have an interest, especially since Archie has a restaurant in New Orleans.
My asking price is $7,100 and the individual who purchases it will be responsible for picking it up in Sarasota/Bradenton, FL or secured shipping.
Thanks
Rich
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Hello All...My name is Brian Hollifield, owner, operator and auctioneer of record for Freedom Auction Company, based in Sarasota, Florida. I am replying at this time to set the record straight.
In response to the various posts...
First of all, I am full of integrity.
Second, I want to acquaint everyone with the concept of an "auction". An auction is held to solicit the next highest bid until no further advance is made and hence the highest bidder wins the item. Last time I checked, we were in the business to sell to the highest bidder, not the lowest bidder. Does one actually think that we would withhold the acceptance of a higher bid? Really?
I know most people think there is some conspiracy against them and the world is out to screw them but please, not the case here. We posted the information about this auction on this particular website because we felt the "experts" might want to know about the sale and would like the opportunity to participate. I want to thank all those who bid online and especially thank all those who either drove down or flew in to participate.
You must remember, we utilize a third party service for internet auctions. We did not receive any further bids on lot 101 beyond the final price and therefore the item was sold. In this case, it was sold to the floor. If another bid did not come in when one submitted a bid, I can only blame it on the technology. Everyone expects things to work perfectly 100% of the time. It doesn't work that way. I am sorry if you missed out on an opportunity to bid again. Do not think for a second that your bid was ignored.
For the record, Vince, you left me one message, not several. I called you right away. Also, impossible for you to bid in a $50 increment as it is not even offered. Also, impossible for you to "Type-in" a bid. Bid button enabled. We offered telephone bidding and absentee bidding if you felt you were certain to be the high bidder. In this case, I would have been on a plane.
I am grateful for all those who participated in our auctions to liquidate the Wollard Estate. There have been many on this board who have been very gracious with information, stories and more. This is the final phase of the Wollard Estate and I did not want a couple of complainers who don't see the back end of things and think we "pulled some crap" to taint what has been an exciting journey into the world of Simplex.
I suggest that if anyone has any further complaint, call me directly at 941-725-2166 instead of complaining or posting here.
I'm full of integrity too... if you don't believe me, just ask me!
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I'm bringing up this old post as I'm the individual that purchased this cycle when it was sold at auction a year ago. I hate to admit it, but I purchased this cycle because I collect sports memorabilia and when I saw this at Freedom Auction, I thought it was one of the coolest sports items I had seen and wanted to add it to my collection. The cycle has been kept in my garage in the same exact condition as when I purchased it. The only time it has been moved out of the garage was twice when I was taking some pictures of it or when I moved things around. I'm sorry to say, but I now realize that I do not have enough room to properly display the bike as I had intended.
With that being said, I am considering listing this on Craigslist as well as eBay, however before doing so, I want to see if anyone on this site has any interest. While my price is obviously higher than what I paid (as documented in this posting), I feel that not only is there a value for the bike but also from a sports memorabilia standpoint. In fact, I am also considering contacting the Manning's to see if they would have an interest, especially since Archie has a restaurant in New Orleans.
My asking price is $7,100 and the individual who purchases it will be responsible for picking it up in Sarasota/Bradenton, FL or secured shipping.
Thanks
Rich
Rich, did the Mannings have any interest in the bike? Did you sell it?