General Category => Engine & Transmission => Topic started by: cotton on November 26, 2016, 03:55:33 PM

Title: Wyco points
Post by: cotton on November 26, 2016, 03:55:33 PM
Hi everyone,
   I am working to rebuild an H motor for my '48 rat bike.  I would like to install new points and condensor.  Does anyone have the replacement points and condensor numbers for the H motor.  I know I can get them from Wayne but was hoping I could get them locally.  Thanks for your help.
-Dwayne
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: pd on November 26, 2016, 05:48:39 PM
I'm not sure it will be beneficial , but , you might try taking your current set to a marine shop that works on old baot motors . I know for a fact that the Phelon system was used in more than one boat motor of that day . So , maybe the Wyco system was too .

This might help  :

 http://www.simplexservi-cycle.com/index.php?topic=446.0

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Ricks on November 26, 2016, 05:50:35 PM
It's Wico, not Wyco!  LOL
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: cotton on November 26, 2016, 07:09:29 PM
Yep Rick, I saw that right after I sent it. I never did very well in school. Pete thanks, I think I may be able to cross some of those numbers.
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Ricks on November 27, 2016, 04:04:57 AM
Check out this auction:   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NOS-Wico-X5112-Contact-Set-Points-Gas-Engine-Magneto-/111928011612?hash=item1a0f6deb5c:g:NZ4AAOSwu1VW3K91

To me, this looks just like it would work.  In the chart posted in the link, it lists the x5112 for many applications, including an earlier Simplex.
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Ricks on November 27, 2016, 04:32:08 AM
A little more investigating, and I think these would also work, but you would have to trim off one section of the breaker plate.  Unfortunately, it shows out of stock at this time.

http://dennis-carpenter.com/ignition-point/p/810577/


As a note, the Simplex condenser part number is the same as a cushion early 6 volt.  Part number Wico x5800
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: pd on November 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
It's Wico, not Wyco!  LOL

Well heck . It SOUNDS like it should be spelled with a Y . ;)

 Rick ,

Does "cushion early 6 volt " = Cushman early 6 volt ?
I'm thinking maybe your auto correct ...

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Ricks on November 27, 2016, 06:03:54 AM
It's Wico, not Wyco!  LOL

Well heck . It SOUNDS like it should be spelled with a Y . ;)

 Rick ,

Does "cushion early 6 volt " = Cushman early 6 volt ?
I'm thinking maybe your auto correct ...


You are 100% correct!  LOL

What do you think Pete, does it look like it is the same to you also?
Pete . :)
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: kartjockey on November 27, 2016, 06:27:42 AM
Here ya go.  Wico backing plate.  and box numbers.  Makes my '48 run!
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: kartjockey on November 27, 2016, 06:30:31 AM
A little blurry.

points   X-5861

condenser   X-5800
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: pd on November 27, 2016, 08:32:34 AM
It's Wico, not Wyco!  LOL

Well heck . It SOUNDS like it should be spelled with a Y . ;)

 Rick ,

Does "cushion early 6 volt " = Cushman early 6 volt ?
I'm thinking maybe your auto correct ...


You are 100% correct!  LOL

What do you think Pete, does it look like it is the same to you also?
Pete . :)

The X5112 looks like it's the same as what Tom has mounted on his plate .

But , the X5861 and X5800 have the 'double tang' on the cam side and looks like that would interfere with adjustment , at least .

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Ricks on November 27, 2016, 09:40:23 AM
The x5800 is the condenser.

The x5861 points that Tom has doesn't seem to have that extra tang that Carpenter Cushman shows in their picture. 

I would venture a guess that many of these Wico points are very similar, if not identical, with its own part number, as requested by the that contracted Wico for their magneto.
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Derek on November 27, 2016, 09:51:53 AM
Has anyone tried one of the Nova II replacement for the points/condenser?
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: pd on November 27, 2016, 10:34:48 AM
Has anyone tried one of the Nova II replacement for the points/condenser?

http://www.simplexservi-cycle.com/index.php?topic=1087.0
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: cotton on November 27, 2016, 11:47:34 AM
Thanks everyone. Tom if it works for yours it should work for mine. Is everyone using the felt oiler? I'm not sure if there is a holder for mine.
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Ricks on November 27, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
I have never taken one apart that had the holder for a felt oiler.  I would guess that the model Simplex specified didn't have it.
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Jason Smith on July 22, 2023, 01:04:22 PM
Hello, do you know what the part number is for the fly wheel for that mag. Because I need two of them.
Title: Re: Wyco points
Post by: Ricks on July 22, 2023, 01:35:01 PM
Wico FW-1278D. That is the larger Wico used from 1941-1956.