General Category => Other Things Simplex => Topic started by: kartjockey on June 11, 2017, 07:30:29 PM

Title: Oddity?
Post by: kartjockey on June 11, 2017, 07:30:29 PM
I want this.  I mean this must be a one of a kind.  That shroud look to be completely deigned for a Simplex.   What's everyone think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simplex-servi-cycle-servicycle-motorcycle-Engine-Complete-1940s-50s-/122544762986?hash=item1c883cb06a:g:uwAAAOSw9~5ZPeRz&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: Ricks on June 12, 2017, 03:41:58 AM
I want this.  I mean this must be a one of a kind.  That shroud look to be completely deigned for a Simplex.   What's everyone think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simplex-servi-cycle-servicycle-motorcycle-Engine-Complete-1940s-50s-/122544762986?hash=item1c883cb06a:g:uwAAAOSw9~5ZPeRz&vxp=mtr

I'd lay bank that motor was on a Simplex lawnmower they built for a short period of time.  I have seen a picture of one, but I can't remember where.

Awesome find!  Tom, when you buy it, bring it to Portland! Lol


http://www.simplexservi-cycle.com/index.php?topic=407.0
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: pd on June 12, 2017, 05:21:31 AM
Oddity for sure , Tom .

I'll agree with Rick . But , it seems the tank is mounted different than in the mower ad .

Pete . :)

Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: Ricks on June 12, 2017, 05:24:25 AM
Oddity for sure , Tom .

I'll agree with Rick . But , it seems the tank is mounted different than in the mower ad .

Pete . :)



The tank is in straps, rotate it 90 degrees.
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: pd on June 12, 2017, 06:15:42 AM
Yeah , I thought of that , too , Rick . But , according to the pics , the fuel line has to be different . It doesn't look like it would reach in any other configuration .

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uwAAAOSw9~5ZPeRz/s-l1600.jpg

I wonder if maybe that motor was used on a go kart .

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: Ricks on June 12, 2017, 07:40:13 AM
L motor, way too early for Go Karts.

I see what you are saying about the fuel filter, good observation!  It wouldn't surprise me if Simplex tried some other equipment, such as a reel mower.  I have heard they sold some motors for stationary industrial uses also, but have never seen one.
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: pd on June 12, 2017, 08:13:37 AM
I just sent the seller a question about any history on the motor he might be able to provide .

I'll post whatever response I get .

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: pd on June 12, 2017, 09:00:48 AM
Here's a very prompt response I just rec'd and sent a Thank You for :

"
New message from: vintgvinyl$$collectables (1,217Red Star)

barn Find In Watsonville Ca. original Owner Told me it was a good working motor Or it would Have not been Saved By his Father. Has been Stored since 1960 According To him , he could not tell me it's Original Application."

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: carryall on June 12, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
Be a really cool project if it went back into an original go-kart. 
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: Ricks on June 12, 2017, 11:28:00 AM
Be a really cool project if it went back into an original go-kart. 

The Karts didn't used Simplex engines. I believe mostly they used West Bend engines.
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: carryall on June 12, 2017, 01:30:46 PM
I didn't know that.  Strange?  Have a guess as to why they wouldn't have used one of their own engines?  Was it a lack of "power" problem or what's your guess or info? 
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: Ricks on June 12, 2017, 01:41:31 PM
After 1960, Simplex stopped using their own engines on everything.  I would guess it was not cost effective to keep building engines, as they were out of date and under powered.  All the Simplex minibike style bikes they built used outsourced engines as well.  The minibik s frequently used Continental engines of different horsepower ratings.
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: kartjockey on June 16, 2017, 03:07:31 AM
Noone is bidding!  I may have to get this engine to Michigan.  Maybe if no one bids I will make an offer.
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: pd on June 16, 2017, 04:59:59 AM
Tom ,

Can we expect a new custom build ? ;)

Just guessing , but maybe you think 600 bucks is too high , too .

Pete . :)

Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: kartjockey on June 18, 2017, 07:12:06 PM
Yikes!! It sold for $599.  But wasn't me. But was ready to make him offer. 
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: Ricks on June 19, 2017, 07:15:16 AM
I was hoping you would get it, but it was not to be.  Maybe whoever bough it will step forward with more info on it, if they have any.
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: Bob53 on June 19, 2017, 07:36:28 AM
Hey guys, I bought this engine last nite. Supposed to be here by Friday. But we'll be gone to Dauphin Island for a week. I hope it arrives before we go or it's going to be a long weeks wait to check it out. I thought it was cool. I may be wrong but I figure any complete original engine is worth 500 to 600 bucks all day long. I've got a couple of frames that were push start never had a kick start. I thought this might be a cool setup for one of these. Original engines are hard to come by. The price of an original bike is reflected in the price they bring with original power vs optional power. Customs are really user friendly though. I'll bring it to Portland where we can check it out. Just a month now, can't wait. Bob
Title: Re: Oddity?
Post by: Ricks on June 19, 2017, 08:51:13 AM
Hey guys, I bought this engine last nite. Supposed to be here by Friday. But we'll be gone to Dauphin Island for a week. I hope it arrives before we go or it's going to be a long weeks wait to check it out. I thought it was cool. I may be wrong but I figure any complete original engine is worth 500 to 600 bucks all day long. I've got a couple of frames that were push start never had a kick start. I thought this might be a cool setup for one of these. Original engines are hard to come by. The price of an original bike is reflected in the price they bring with original power vs optional power. Customs are really user friendly though. I'll bring it to Portland where we can check it out. Just a month now, can't wait. Bob

Excellent Bob.  Be sure to take a lot of pictures as you rebuild it.  I wonder what it is going to look like under the cooling shroud. I am curious if there is a fan in it.

See you in Portland!