General Category => Restoration Projects => Topic started by: tmenard on September 14, 2013, 06:37:09 AM
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I'm new here and I have bought a Simplex project bike. I know that the headlight, fenders, handle bars, and of course the motor are not correct and the foot rests and the crash bar have been removed. Can you tell me anything else about the bike. Here are a couple pictures I took before I bought it.
This is a great site and there is a lot of good information on here. I'm glad to be a part of it. Thanks, Tim
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Looking at your front fork, I would say that was a sportsman model. It most likley didn't ever have crash bars on it, and the foot pegs would be correct as they are. This bike would date somewhere in 1957 or 58. Looks like a good start for a project. Some one has turned the rear brake around backwards. The fork part should fit through a pin on the frame to hold the backing plate when the brake is applied
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I think simplexguy is correct : Sportsman frame .
It looks to be in decent condition .
Have you given Mike Sal the frame # , located under the fork neck support ?
I have to wonder just how they intended to stop the bike . I see neither brake is functional .
The bottom ends on the fork tubes seem different ( unfinished ) compared to mine :
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1629.jpg)
And you're missing the spring washers ( stop/limiter collars ) . The springs are suppose to sit like :
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1662_zps5a475edc.jpg)
And , I have to say , that's an awfully nice carry bag you have . ;)
Pete . :)
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We need more pictures of the front end, from a straight ahead view. I agree, looks like a sportsman to me.
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Looking at your front fork, I would say that was a sportsman model. It most likley didn't ever have crash bars on it, and the foot pegs would be correct as they are. This bike would date somewhere in 1957 or 58. Looks like a good start for a project. Some one has turned the rear brake around backwards. The fork part should fit through a pin on the frame to hold the backing plate when the brake is applied
Thank you very much, all 3 of you.. I'll pick the bike up in November. Once I get it home I'll check it out closer. Thanks again for the information. I really appreciate you guys taking the time and including the pictures. I'm sure I'll have more questions at that time. Thanks again, Tim
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I think simplexguy is correct : Sportsman frame .
It looks to be in decent condition .
Have you given Mike Sal the frame # , located under the fork neck support ?
I have to wonder just how they intended to stop the bike . I see neither brake is functional .
The bottom ends on the fork tubes seem different ( unfinished ) compared to mine :
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1629.jpg)
And you're missing the spring washers ( stop/limiter collars ) . The springs are suppose to sit like :
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1662_zps5a475edc.jpg)
And , I have to say , that's an awfully nice carry bag you have . ;)
Pete . :)
That's my drinking water bag for crossing the desert?
Is the Sportsman Simplex as common as the other model?
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"Is the Sportsman Simplex as common as the other model?"
Probably not , being as they weren't made for nearly as long a period of time .
Pete . :)
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I would guess that simplex did not build more than a couple thousand sportsman bikes. To restore that bike back to original will be very difficult, because it used some parts, such as the inboard starter, that are not readily available.
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I would guess that simplex did not build more than a couple thousand sportsman bikes. To restore that bike back to original will be very difficult, because it used some parts, such as the inboard starter, that are not readily available.
Will I have a hard time finding the correct fenders and handlebars?
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I would guess that simplex did not build more than a couple thousand sportsman bikes. To restore that bike back to original will be very difficult, because it used some parts, such as the inboard starter, that are not readily available.
Will I have a hard time finding the correct fenders and handlebars?
Handlebars are available reproduction. Fenders on that model are the normal style, and will have to be found used.
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Thanks Rick for information.
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Well I finally got my "new" bike home. The first thing I did was to take the bicycle fenders off and put on a pair that I bought from our Simplex Brother dw1973 and put a tube in the back tire. The motor that is on it is a cast iron block of some manufacture unknown that is welded to some angle iron motor mounts and they are welded to the frame, nice! Right now I'm thinking, if I don't come across an original motor, I'll do a Honda GC 190 motor. I hope the new photos will help to see the parts that are correct or are not to be on my bike.
Thanks, Tim
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Nice start! That thing is screaming for a GC190 motor. That will turn that into a nice rider!
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I like it! what tires are those?
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Agreed . Nice start . Looks like you'll be wearing down a cutting wheel or two . ;)
Pete . :)
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Nice start! That thing is screaming for a GC190 motor. That will turn that into a nice rider!
Thanks Rick. I really like the flat black one that illMattic is building with the GC 190, Sweet!
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I like it! what tires are those?
Thanks racie35,
Tires are just for moving it around, they are 26" bicycle tires. I'll have to figure out sometime what tire I'll need.
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Agreed . Nice start . Looks like you'll be wearing down a cutting wheel or two . ;)
Pete . :)
Thanks Pete. I'm sure it's going to be a pain, but it will stock up on grinding discs before I start.
I keep forgetting to ask you what color of blue is on the front fender you sent in the above pictures?
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if those are bicycle tires why did the fenders you had fit so tightly?...they look too small in the early pics
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"I keep forgetting to ask you what color of blue is on the front fender you sent in the above pictures?"
That color is Medium Sapphire Blue Metallic .
Here's what it looks like outside :
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1734_zps6c07b436.jpg)
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those blue fenders are nearly exact copies of whizzer NER or ambassdor....on the NER they come that color...I have a rear here somewhere and a black front.......theyre going on a simplex too.
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your bikes nice PD :)
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your bikes nice PD :)
Thanks . :)
I kinda like it , too . ;)
Pete . :)
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those blue fenders are nearly exact copies of whizzer NER or ambassdor....on the NER they come that color...I have a rear here somewhere and a black front.......theyre going on a simplex too.
Who supplies these fenders?
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You can order them from the manufacturer of the 2008 whizzer NER or Ambassador.. Those bikes came with 3" kenda flame tires and take the same fenders. His shipping is high but you could also try his dealer here. whizzerpaul on eBay...he's in indiana and ordered mine before. On eBay the Taiwan manufacturer is "Che "...his names Joe though and theyre making whizzer copies again and calling them Cruzzer's. I'd hurry on the fenders if I wanted more...those two bikes he isn't repopping
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"I keep forgetting to ask you what color of blue is on the front fender you sent in the above pictures?"
That color is Medium Sapphire Blue Metallic .
Here's what it looks like outside :
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1734_zps6c07b436.jpg)
Wow Pete, Your bike looks great! Really pretty color. Thanks, Tim
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Thanks , Tim . :)