Ordering & gathering parts. Sta-tru steel wheels came in,12ga.stainless steel spokes, chrome steel rim 2.215" x26" disc up-front & coaster brake rear. Really heavy duty I've used them on other builds as well as Workman.  I like them both. I'm mounting Duro flame 2.4" on both. I'm planning on running a bike bottom bracket & peddles with wide crank & reduction gear on motor side. I also plan on running 2 peanut tanks side by side in the stock Simplex location which gives about 20" vertical space for the CG-150.They actually fill the stock tank location well & hold 4 liters total. I also received a 210mm 3/8" axle for the rear wheel, along with two thread-on 14mm axle adaptors for the half inch rear drops which I'll bring out to 14mm also & use BMX style wheel adjusters. I've also ordered a 58 tooth sprocket & sprocket hub adaptor. My design plan is to make a Simplex which in concept harkens back to the early 1900s period of motobike building...peddles, small bike frames, bicycle tires, coaster brakes. At the same time upgrading with disc brakes, multispeed, electric start & power...while retaining the inherent stance, size, nimbleness & attitude of the Simplex.

I was also notified that the Sunlite dual springer forks had shipped along with the flame tires, no word on the power plant. Headset parts already here. Rick C.   

Thanks for your comment Pete, I really like building the little bikes...so light, simple and lively. Takes me back to an earlier day...you'll never see fuel injection (except mechanical) on any of my builds. Bike or automotive. Old school all the way.

I got to thinking about the 15" clearance that Rick S. mentioned & did some measuring and digging in my parts bins and came up with an idea which should work with even a 20" height and keep the main frame in tact. Remove lower tank support, remove existing motor mount plate. This gains some room, but necessitates building MC style motor mounts to the Simplex frame without using a plate. Need more than this gain.

Then I dug up two brand new peanut tanks from motorized bike builds. Same size as is shown mounted on my Indian Scout moto-bicycle in previous post. They are 2 liter size,quite small and fit almost as if they were made for the Simplex in the allocated tank space. One filler cap on each side of the spring bar, be quite simple to join together and mount in stock tank location. First trial fit showed 19" between the bottom of the tank's and the motor plate. Only two of us in the shop today, during the week probably would have had several "loafers" hanging around, so holding them in place and taking photos wasn't something I wanted to mess with...but I'll snap some photos this week to help you understand what I'm talking about. The two tanks actually look good in the stock tank position.

This is the on/off road clone bike engine I was referring to... I bought for $350 and re-sold for $700 last year.  (kinda fun but lightweight for real offroad use).  It was a Redcat label but is a generic engine with 5 speed transmission. I've seen/worked on quite a few. (sorry for poor quality photos as my computer skills in resizing photos are nill) I've come across these engine in a couple of different products and are generally a decent build but the biggest problem is poor quality fasteners/hardware. (soft)  Most issues can be remedied with upgraded bolts, etc...They now make them with larger displacements also. (200-300cc) Note: I forgot when looking up parts, it was listed under CG-150 engine parts designation although the manufacturer listing was GY-150#, thus the confusion.  That's what happens when your dealing between Taiwan and/or Chinese made stuff.

That would seem to be the puppy I plan to use Carryall. I've also seen these used in offroad bikes & have much first hand experience with the poor quality fasteners and hardware on some Chinese motors and products in general (often refered to as butter bolt grade) I build motorized bicycles also along with hotrods and offroad vehicles so have ordered a lot of stuff from the east, some good others no so much. Thanks for your input.

Carryall the GY-150's I've seen all have a jug which lays more horizontal, making it quite long in comparison to the vertcal jug design of the CG or CB 150 Honda engine. Rick C.

Ok Rick w/a C, is this GC150 with the transmission together? Or is it two separate components? I've been thinking of using a small atv motor and trans assy. but the frame needs a inch or two more in length. Oh by the way Howdy from Texas. Do you have a picture of the style of motor you as re using?

Greetings from Indian Territory. Spent many years based in Houston, loved Texas but don't miss the big city. Don't have photo of the engine...it's a CG150 with integral 5 speed a clone of the Honda thats used in the Brazilian manufactured Titan motorcycles and also used in the current California Scooter that is a design based on the old Mustang motorcycle. I don't have measurements on the 150cc but the 200cc 5 speed is listed as 20"h x16"L x 14"w, the 200cc is also an integral 5 speed design.

These motors are vertical cylinder design with 12v electric start and kick start. Kw conversion comes out to about  13 hp @7000 rpm if my information source is correct. Shipping weight is about 80lbs. Check you tube for vids of the California scooter and you'll see the design in a small frame (they use 150cc, 200cc & 250cc 5 speeds in their small cycle builds. Rick C.

I'm currently running two of them on different motorized bikes they are hour meter/ digital tach combination connected to the plug wire by wrapping a small lead wire around it...has a setting for either 2cycle or 4cycle use.
Hour meter is very useful to keep track of my breakin hours. The tach is accurate but has a very slow response time.  What I mean is that engine revs indicated lags real time engine speed. Not a problem for my use cause I'm not pushing limits. A racer would have big problems with lag time. Once engine speed is held steady the tach is pretty close to correct (I mounted one on a Rebel equipped with a factory tach & they indicted about the same rpm at steady throttle. Under $20. on ebay, not a bad buy. I have one complaint, the digital readout is not lighted on mine and in cold weather the display is very dim and hard to read...on nice warm days no problem seeing. Rick C.

I.T. west, just south of Clinton...thanks for the welcomes! Rick C.