General Category => Introductions => Topic started by: rickyd on August 04, 2016, 01:53:24 PM
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Hello from the Ozarks, rickyd or Rick Cantrell here. Been collecting bicycles for several years and ran onto this Simplex the other day in an old chicken house with some bikes. I've been lurking here reading and absorbing. Today I finally got together with the owner and alas he cannot find the motor. I have frame in my possession and will attempt to free up some stuck items and hope he finds motor. He believes it to be late 40s as do I after reading here. Learned opinions are very welcome as I know nothing about these machines. If he cannot find it I may look f(http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/r511/rickyd462000/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160804_134614_100.jpg) (http://s1169.photobucket.com/user/rickyd462000/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160804_134614_100.jpg.html)or another or go the Honda route, or sell it. Nothing definite now. Once again hello, and thanks for allowing me in. Rick
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Welcome rickyd . :)
Looks like it might be a good start for a project .
Pete . :)
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That is an awesome ride!
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Very cool!
Vince
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Hello Rick . Good find . Have fun with the build .
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It would be great if the guy can find the motor....there is so many of the other parts present, it would nice to see it restored.
What kinds of bikes do you collect? Many with mechanical brakes?
Mike Sal
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Collect and ride balloon tire bikes, love the ones from the thirties, Colson, Shelby, etc. If you mean front hub drum brakes I have none of those. Own one kinda rare internal disc brake front hub, lots of different types of rear hubs and parts if you need something. Calling it a night here. Thanks for welcome. Rick
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Welcome Rick, You'll find this site is a wealth of information and this is a great bunch of people. I'm in Oklahoma. Glad to have someone else in the southern part. Bob
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Looks to be a early 40 to 47. Might be a direct drive. Can't really tell . Can't see lift side of the bike.
Post more pictures. Call Wyane Mahaffey. (256) 353-5552 NIGHTS. He is in Alabama. Great guy. If anyone knows where you can get your hands on a motor, he will.
Dave C
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Looks to be a early 40 to 47. Might be a direct drive. Can't really tell . Can't see lift side of the bike.
Post more pictures. Call Wyane Mahaffey. (256) 353-5552 NIGHTS. He is in Alabama. Great guy. If anyone knows where you can get your hands on a motor, he will.
Dave C
Welcome Dave C . :)
Seems you've been doing some reading . (http://www.cb750c.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/thumbsup.gif)
Pete . :)
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FOUND THE MOTOR!!!!!!! Happy man here. H1723(http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/r511/rickyd462000/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160812_114048_271.jpg) (http://s1169.photobucket.com/user/rickyd462000/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160812_114048_271.jpg.html)
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Looks like it is pretty much all there. You even have the aluminum fly wheel cover. You should really talk to Wayne. He will have the parts that you are missing. I forgot to mention that you need to call him after 7 PM his time if you want to get him in person.
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Excellent . But , what is that small gear and shaft next to the flywheel ?
Pete . :)
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I think shaft with gear got dropped in box as I see no use for it in motor but will not discard until I determine that. Rick
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Might make a decent paper weight . It's likely a very valuable antiquity . ;)
Pete . :)
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Hey Rick-
Dave from the CABE here. Congratulations on finding the motor. I'll be watching your progress.
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Congrats!!!!! I was hoping he found the motor. Did he find it or let you search. It will make a very nice project. Looking forward to your progress. Bob
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He turned me loose in a shop full of stuff some would call junk. Motor was in a clear plastic tub in plain site I just caught a glimpse of cylinder and knew that was it. Still mulling different ideas about what to do with it. Gonna clean motor up today stick it in frame and try to understand how clutch system works. Will post up a pic of it when I get it together. Rick
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What is the engine number!?
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H1723
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Hey Rick, just wondering if you have a pinion gear mounted to the magneto? If so, did you find the kick start assembly in the box of motor goodies?
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According to PO it never had a kick starter he said pull compression release and push. got motor mocked into frame this evening. Gonna move this to project section after some more pictures in better light hopefully tomorrow.
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So. if I understand correctly from the info on the attached sheet (provided by the moderator of this site), this bike would be earlier than 1945? Open question to anyone that would like to jump in.
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I would have to think the bike is a '44 . No fork rebound springs . 2.5 gallon tank w/ right side fill .
I can't see where the kick stand is ...
Seems everything points to '44 .
Pete . :)
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I would have to think the bike is a '44 . No fork rebound springs . 2.5 gallon tank w/ right side fill .
I can't see where the kick stand is ...
Seems everything points to '44 .
Pete . :)
I think you guys are wrong. I'd say 45-47 model H. If it was earlier, it wouldn't have the brake pedal on the right toe, it would be heel activated. To me, this is the biggest giveaway. Plus, look at the air filter, that doesn't look like an oil bath to me. I also notice that the transmission mounts are flat steel, whereas earlier models were tube.
With all these cues, one would have to assume that engine is correct for that frame.
If I had to pinpoint the year, I would say 1945. The kick starter came around 1946, I believe, and was a bolt-on affair.
Thanks my 2 cents!
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You're probably right , Rick .
The seat leaf spring indicates '45 to '48 :
(http://www.simplexservi-cycle.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=293.0;attach=1610;image)
Pete . :)
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What year was the handlebar mounting changed from the bicycle stem style to the 4 bolt mounting plate style?
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What year was the handlebar mounting changed from the bicycle stem style to the 4 bolt mounting plate style?
According to the sheet above : 10-'47 through 9 - '48 .
Pete . :)
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Duh!!! Don't know how I missed that?????
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Duh!!! Don't know how I missed that?????
In the blink of an eye . ;)
Pete . :)
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What year was the handlebar mounting changed from the bicycle stem style to the 4 bolt mounting plate style?
Mike Sal was putting that above guide together. Do not take it as gospel,I it was a work in progress.
The flat plate handlebar mount was introduced on the 1949 Model K. Most bikes built from 1949-on have the flat plate. There were bik s built after this date with a gooseneck, but I think they are relatively rare. The military bikes seemed to retain the gooseneck style, why, I have not the slightest idea.
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Military bikes had the gooseneck so the handlebars could be turned 90 degrees for shipping (and throwing out of airplanes).
Sometime in '56, I think, the stamping die for the handlebar plate broke & rather than fix it (talking about the curved sides), they modified it to just be straight sided.
Mike Sal
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Moved Ol Krusty to Project section.