General Category => Photo Gallery => Topic started by: mneukirch on May 21, 2012, 10:20:48 AM
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so i was finally able to get my 47 simplex together somewhat.i still have more to so but its at least good to see it as anything other then a frame and a pile of parts lol
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I like that cylinder setting on sideways on the motor look. I wonder if a side exhaust pipe could be fashioned without getting into your leg? The ports probably wouldn't line up enough with the crankcase & piston to let the engine run (?).
I also notice that boss hog bike setting next to it.....
Mike Sal
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the motor is set that way becuse ive noticed there is a balance issue with how i have the bike placed. so it falls off.
i have a more complete 1953 motor BUT ive noticed it is taller so i cannot place it on the frame . so im going to have to rebuild the orignal smaller engine.
tho i am amazed that the damaged rear tire is a Servi cycle brand tire. i cant reuse it but its cool non the less. and the seat is still stamped with the company servi cycle logo.
as for the larger bike. that is my fathers 2000 indian chief that he just spend the last 2 years completely redoing and even modifying a 2002 Indian motor .and getting rid of the orignal S&S Harley motor
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The reproduction tires that are available have the Servi cycle writing on them. Also, several of the seat rebuilders have the servi cycle die, so they can stamp the seat, just like original.
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well thats good to know for the replacements.
im just happy that the orignal seat is in undamaged and can be used. .
and the damaged rear tire must be orignal becuse i dont think they had repo for it yet in 1975.when my father received this bike and placed it in our crawl space.
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Coker started reproducing the Simplex tire in the mid 90's I believe at the prompting and organizing of Gary Wollard.
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Motor Height.....would you mind telling us the difference in height between the motors? Is the difference in the crankcase height, or the length of the jug (or both??)?
Mike Sal
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well what happens ive noticed is since the 1950's motor had a larger diameter crankcase which adds size compared to the original 1947 engine which has a smaller crank case diameter... .i was not able to fit the 1950's engine into my 1947 frame it hits the tank and does not pass the bracket under the tank
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I just measure my 53 automatic and 49 model K, and they are both 13 1/2" from motor plate to tanks mount. I'm curious what your measurement is.
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well it may be because its a mixed engine.. its a mix of 47 and 53 engines so i think one is taller due to the changes. but my issue is when i placed my newer 53 engine in the spark plugs hit the tank. in fact i have to replace a plug becuse one got damaged when i was removing it.
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Not sure what your ultimate goal is, but if it's to get one good bike out of the whole mess, you might consider contacting Wayne to see if he'd be interested in deal where you send him all your motor parts & he sends you one good motor. Motor parts are hard enough to come by that he might be interested.
Mike Sal
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well i have a complete engine. as long as i use the 1953 model M engine.. if i wanted to use the orignal model H motor i would need to rebuild it .as im missing parts.
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so i was able to fit the 53 engine.it turns out the upper mount was bent down.and i had to bend to fit (and yes i have a mountain bike front wheel )its just to help with the balance. as i still have to get a replacement.
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i do have 1 issue i found that i cannot easyly put in the fuel tank without having to pry it in. . is there something that must be removed to easly remove the tank ?
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Max, the brace that runs under the tank could be bent, but it is a close fit to get the tank in & out. It's one of those "hold your mouth just right" deals.
BTW, if I've not already asked you, could you share your frame number & motor numbers for your bikes for the registry? If I've already asked, I guess I mis-placed your reply.
thanks,
Mike Sal
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yea i replayed to it Via forum PM message. .
i have no frame # as of that of its age.
from what ive figured its a 1947
and i have 2 motors.
one is a model M(M22545B) which is the newer engine and the original which is a model H (H15177E)
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My suggestion is, after painting the tank, use something like thin rubber or foam to pad the tank contact points. If not, the vibration of the bike will rub the paint off. Mike Sal suggested maybe using the liquid rubber they use to coat the handles of tools and paint some on the frame.
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its intresting ill keep that in mind
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and yes i know the tank and pully is not in correctly...and a bike wheel for the front. i need to get a correct one
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im still working on it i spend a few days media blasting and repainted somewhat to keep the rust down.
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Hey, your ahead of some of us if you can keep chipping away at it without getting distracted by other things......I should have had my bike running 2 months ago, & it has yet to fire up yet.....
Mike Sal
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well its still not completely there. im still learning on what is correct parts for what. but it at least looks correct. besides for the correct missing front wheel
the black paint is just generic spray paint. to keep the rust down not the final paint.
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Hello ! I hope you don't mind me asking ,, Does the seat spring support you O.K. ?my servicycle spring is way too weak for my skinny butt ( 170 lbs) keeps hitting the fender if I don't dodge cigarette butts , Engine looks frankenstein , but should do alright if it's tight that early belt setup might drive you nuts at first ( like it did me) once plumbed up , it does alright , Please don't hesitate to ask stuff , these engines are very " different" and have specific idiosynchrocies b( hope I spelled that right ) thank you for the excellent photos and good luck with your project , Larry.
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the seat seems to work ok.