General Category => Introductions => Topic started by: HGontheHD on December 24, 2013, 06:26:57 PM

Title: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: HGontheHD on December 24, 2013, 06:26:57 PM
I got the Simplex bug. I picked up what is suppose to be a 1952.
Frame number is 10192
Motor number is M15223B

Can anyone tell me if these numbers would be a 52?

Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: Ricks on December 24, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
I got the Simplex bug. I picked up what is suppose to be a 1952.
Frame number is 10192
Motor number is M15223B

Can anyone tell me if these numbers would be a 52?



Welcome aboard!

I'm leaning towards a 1955 for the frame.  Motor may be earlier, like a 1954.  Post some pictures of the bike so we can look at some of the details.

Is it an automatic or shift bike?
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: HGontheHD on December 24, 2013, 06:53:30 PM
It's an automatic.
I think it's been pieced together and I've already got the motor and tranny pulled off the bike.
I'll try and post some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: Mike Sal on December 24, 2013, 06:55:58 PM
I agree with Rick, I think you have a '55 bike with a '54 motor.  Let us know if your dash plate (the metal plate the handlebars are bolted to) have curved sides or straight sides.

Send me a PM with your real name, the state you live in, and your bikes condition & your plans for it.  I'll add you to the Simplex registry.

Wilkommen & Froheh Weinachten!!!
Mike Sal
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: HGontheHD on December 24, 2013, 07:41:06 PM
The sides of the handlebar plate are straight.
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: pd on December 24, 2013, 08:53:06 PM
Welcome HGontheHD . :)
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: HGontheHD on January 31, 2014, 08:17:33 PM
I picked up another Simplex the other day. I'll try and post a picture of the frame number. It took me a while to figure out what happened when they stamped it but I think I did.
Frame number is 07751, the 5 looks like a backwards "C" and only half the size of the other numbers. I believe the stamp drifted up on the person stamping it and when he hit it with his hammer it only stamped the bottom of a 5.
I'm taking the motor to Wayne tomorrow and have him go through it.

Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: pd on January 31, 2014, 08:29:48 PM
"I believe the stamp drifted up on the person stamping it and when he hit it with his hammer it only stamped the bottom of a 5. "

I'd agree with that . You can see the # get shallower toward the top .
07751 would make it most likely a 1954 frame . Possibly a late '53 , but ???

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: Bruce on February 01, 2014, 05:01:27 AM
Looks more like an  8 someone didn't wanna hold straight.  ;)
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: HGontheHD on February 01, 2014, 05:43:55 AM
I thought it was an 8 at first but my old eyes now tell my old brain that I can faintly see a straight line leading upward from the top half of the backward "C". I think once I get the paint knocked off of it I should be able to see it a bit better.

Huston
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: Mike Sal on February 03, 2014, 10:18:43 AM
What is the motor number from the latest bike purchase?
Mike Sal
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: HGontheHD on February 03, 2014, 05:28:26 PM
There is not a serial number on this motor. I took it to Wayne yesterday and he said he has seen a few like this. Seems at some point early on in it's life the owner must have sent the motor back to Simplex for repair and they replaced the lower unit and he said they did not serialize them when this occurred. It is an "M" motor. The transmission is a 1953 according to Wayne. He said the only year they made the automatic transmission with the barbell style weights was in 53.
Looking at the registry the frame number would fall in the 53 range I believe.

I picked up an "L" motor along with this bike. It's serial number is L11078M.

Huston
Title: Re: Another Alabama Newbie
Post by: Mike Sal on February 03, 2014, 08:21:57 PM
Hmmm. that's interesting.  I agree that they probably replaced the crankcase, but I'm surprised they didn't transfer the old number to the new case.  Maybe the assumed that having the frame number was all that was important.
Mike Sal