General Category => Introductions => Topic started by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 08:33:12 AM

Title: Hello from New York
Post by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 08:33:12 AM

Hello all.  I am new to the site and wanted to introduce myself.  I am the proud owner of a 52 automatic.  I purchased the bike about twelve years ago.  Did some work to it and then got a little distracted with other hobbies.  As I have fixed everything in my house this winter in the vortex, I decided to start up on the bike again.  Looking forward to being part of the community.

Greg
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Ricks on March 17, 2014, 08:38:19 AM
Welcome Wozzer!  Where in NY?  I'm on long island.

Post a picture and the engine and frame numbers.  1953 is the beginning of the automatic years, so lets figure out what you have.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 09:05:51 AM
Rick,
I live in the Saratoga Springs area.  My frame number is 10242.  I will get the engine number this afternoon.  Any suggestions on posting a photo.  File size is too big. 
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: pd on March 17, 2014, 09:16:45 AM
Welcome Wozzer . :)

640x480 works nicely for me . I have them resized automatically by Photobucket . That site also provides image posting codes . There is an option on this site for clickable thumbs . Hit the preview button below the Quick Reply box . Then the + Additional Options...

Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Ricks on March 17, 2014, 09:22:46 AM
Frame number is a 1955.  Post a picture of the steering plate also, when you get a chance.  The early ones had curved sides, the later straight.  I am guessing straight on yours.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 09:34:51 AM
Here is a photo after disassembly.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Ricks on March 17, 2014, 09:45:47 AM
That looks like an easy resto!  Do you have all the motor and transmission pieces?

There is the AMCA show in Rhinebeck in early June, are you thinking of going?
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 09:52:11 AM
Rick,
I have all of the major parts, motor,trans, magneto cover, air cleaner etc.  It just needs a little tlc after sitting for a while.  I do need a tail light and a few minor parts.  I have some good friends that go down to Rhinebeck every year, may have to tag along this year. 
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Ricks on March 17, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
Rick,
I have all of the major parts, motor,trans, magneto cover, air cleaner etc.  It just needs a little tlc after sitting for a while.  I do need a tail light and a few minor parts.  I have some good friends that go down to Rhinebeck every year, may have to tag along this year. 

Bring your bike.  I took one of mine  2 years ago and got a great reception.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Mike Sal on March 17, 2014, 10:21:17 AM
I'm surprised to see the curve sided anchor plate and ignition stalk.  The serial number puts it over halfway into the '55 model year.  The brake actuating lever looks right.  Greg do you know if the bike seemed original when you got it, or was it possibly made up from parts from other bikes?

Send me a PM w/ your last name & the motor number & I'll add you to the registry.
Mike Sal
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 10:31:13 AM
The bike was found in a barn in California by my brother in law.  It was originally red.  Not sure of history before that.  I hope to get more info later this week.  I still have the original head nut.  The ignition stalk was purchased from Wayne a long time ago.  Would like to bring it back as original as possible if it is not already frankenstien.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Ricks on March 17, 2014, 10:38:18 AM
Mike, that brake pedal style started with the 1953 model.

Wozzer, is there an ignition switch in the handlebar mounting plate?  Is there a switch in the head light housing? We need a closeup of the steering parts so we can see the switches used.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
There is nothing in the head light.  There is a hole in the handlebar mounting plate for a switch. 
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Ricks on March 17, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
There is nothing in the head light.  There is a hole in the handlebar mounting plate for a switch. 

Do you happen to have the stock switch.  I think your bike used the combination ignition/light switch, which is not available, as far as I know.  Wayne did have a replacement available for a while, but I seem to remember him telling me the company is no longer making it for him.  Since you have the tower from Wayne, might as well get the switch for that and add the toggle switch for the lights.  I won't tell!!  LOL 
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 11:06:45 AM
Not sure if you can tell from the photo, but I have a toggle in the handlebar mount that I got from wayne in the eraly 2000's.  I hope that it is the correct one. 
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Mike Sal on March 17, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
Rick, the brake lever I was referring to is the one on the backing plate on the rear wheel, not the foot pedal.  They used several different types over the years. 

I'll bet it originally had the toggle switch in the anchor plate & no key or stalk.
Mike Sal
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Wozzer on March 17, 2014, 02:34:07 PM
Mike
You are correct.  The original head bolt was a chrome acorn nut.  I have a switch with three terminals. 
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: OnaWingandaPrayer on March 17, 2014, 03:49:54 PM
Hello and Welcome to the forum . Enjoy your bike .
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: admin on March 17, 2014, 05:47:30 PM
Rick, the brake lever I was referring to is the one on the backing plate on the rear wheel, not the foot pedal.  They used several different types over the years. 

I'll bet it originally had the toggle switch in the anchor plate & no key or stalk.
Mike Sal


Ok Mike, I misunderstood.

What year did they change from the stalk ignition switch to the multi switch?
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Mike Sal on March 17, 2014, 08:21:40 PM
The multi function key switch (ignition plus lights) came in '56.  I thought the stalk mounted ignition switch first appeared sometime in '54, but haven't been able to pin it down exactly.
Mike Sal
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Ricks on March 17, 2014, 08:48:16 PM
The multi function key switch (ignition plus lights) came in '56.  I thought the stalk mounted ignition switch first appeared sometime in '54, but haven't been able to pin it down exactly.
Mike Sal

Bill Erickson's 1952 Truck has a tower, my 1953 and 1954 both have one also.

I just checked the 1951 Simplex Instruction Book and it shows the button switch on the magneto plate to kill the motor. The 1952-1953 Instruction Book tells the user to turn the key.  That tells me 1952 was the first year of the tower ignition.

The Simplex 125 manual, printed August 1953 shows the tower also.  This manual does not cover anything about the automatic.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: pd on March 17, 2014, 08:58:18 PM
Rick ,

Something to consider : A time line thread , where 'innovations' or changes were introduced or ended .

That thread should be a read only thread for the membership and only added to or edited by admin or authorized individuals . All discussion about the thread would take place elsewhere .

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Ricks on March 18, 2014, 05:02:24 AM
Rick ,

Something to consider : A time line thread , where 'innovations' or changes were introduced or ended .

That thread should be a read only thread for the membership and only added to or edited by admin or authorized individuals . All discussion about the thread would take place elsewhere .

Pete . :)

Mike Sal has already done it.  He will be publishing it shortly and will make it a sticky.  When he does, if anyone spots something incorrect, please send him a note.  Same goes for additions.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: butch27 on March 18, 2014, 07:10:36 AM
Can't wait for that to be shown.
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: pd on March 18, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
Ah . Great minds ... and all that . ;)

When is the proposed release date and when should we expect our engraved invitations . :D

Pete . :)
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: Mike Sal on March 18, 2014, 10:58:08 AM
All, I've just uploaded a PDF in the "What Year is My Bike" section as a sticky.  Look it over & start sending me additions & corrections.

Rick, you were a step ahead of me.  I was just getting ready to go thru the manuals for research & you beat me to it. 

Also, I've uploaded an update to the registry.  We've got 160 entries (a handful are references).  Not bad!
Mike Sal
Title: Re: Hello from New York
Post by: pd on March 18, 2014, 08:47:32 PM
Mike ,

I just took a stroll through both the registry and the 'difference' PDF .

Nicely done . Thanks for your efforts .

Pete . :)