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Other Things Simplex / Re: Best way to ship a simplex?
« on: May 01, 2016, 04:40:24 PM »
If I can figure out how to do it, I'll get it 3d scanned and print out one for you. It won't be metal but if you paint it no one will know.

Hmmmmm... I seem to remember someone on this forum is a pretty good machinist.

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Other Things Simplex / Re: Best way to ship a simplex?
« on: May 01, 2016, 03:16:09 PM »
Sure did. I was planning on building one for my wife eventually anyway. This way I will have a reference when I'm engineering the one that's built around the frame that Kartjockey (Tom) sold me.  I looked at what I was going to have in the one I am working on now and couldn't pass it up.

Now, my wife will be riding before I am. My son told me I need to make a side car so that's next on the list after these two.

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Wheels & Tires / Re: Bolt in replacement wheels?
« on: May 01, 2016, 03:13:29 PM »
Trust me, that's on the list. Actually the school he goes to has a full prototyping facility. I asked the guy that runs the facility if he knew a good machinist. We talked about what I was doing. He said "I've got the equipment if you know how to use it". Unfortunately I don't. There isn't much I can't do with my hands but that is on the list. He will be my machinist when he gets a little older. ;-)

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Other Things Simplex / Re: Best way to ship a simplex?
« on: May 01, 2016, 02:35:55 PM »
Thanks!

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Other Things Simplex / Re: All about Simplex!
« on: May 01, 2016, 02:20:19 PM »
Tom, how did you ship my frame? Or rather who did you use to do it? I don't remember.

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Wheels & Tires / Re: Bolt in replacement wheels?
« on: May 01, 2016, 02:11:57 PM »
Sorry, I should have updated. The ID of the bushings were not close enough to the OD of the bearings. No off the shelf solution. I tried though. From my math it looked like it would work but once I held everything in my hands and tried fitting it up it was a no go.

I'm working on another idea related to the other thread about a electric starter on the GC-190. Either way I'm going to need the services of a machinist. Looks like the wheels are going to be on the list of items that need that skill. I got a lead on a good one I just need to get my drawings together to have the stuff machined. I have a 7 year old so finding the time is... challenging.


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Other Things Simplex / Best way to ship a simplex?
« on: May 01, 2016, 02:06:08 PM »
Anyone Know the best way (most economical) way to ship a simplex. It's in pieces so it can be spread across a few boxes. I just don't want to pay a fortune to get it here. I'm not really worried how long it takes.

Any ideas?

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Other Things Simplex / Re: All about Simplex!
« on: May 01, 2016, 02:04:49 PM »
Everything is gone now. They have torn the Home Depot down in the last few months and are building something new. I drove past there a few minutes ago.

Time marches on I guess.


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Buy, Sell, Trade / Re: 1947/48 simplex for sale.
« on: April 29, 2016, 02:33:07 PM »
Hmmmm... That's pretty tempting. could you post some pics of what it looks like as it sits? All of it?

Rick, what were the production numbers like per year? That sounds like around 200 a year. Is that right?

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Buy, Sell, Trade / Re: Looking for Simplex for sale
« on: April 23, 2016, 10:03:11 AM »
I almost thing the throttle control looks iffy and kind of generic. Just wondering how that would be better than a stock throttle control. Looks like some one may have added it.

My buddy's grandfather worked for simplex until they closed. He died a few years ago. He would have known about this.

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Simplexes with Non-Original Engines / Re: Honda GC 190 info
« on: April 17, 2016, 06:24:37 PM »
Looks like we MAY have a winner here....

I did a search on the starter using the part number. STARTER MOTOR ASSY. 31200-Z0L-821

It brought me to this page http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/honda/H-31200-Z0L-821.html Down at the bottom it lists all the engines that the starter is compatible with.

At the bottom you'll see HRX217. I did a search on HRX217 and it took me to this page.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Honda-21-in-Variable-Speed-Self-Propelled-Electric-Start-Gas-Mower-HRX217HZA/100643623

Look at the second video on the right. (Edit) It shows the use of the electric start and talks about the onboard charging system. Not sure if everything swaps over but it may be promising.

If you look through the parts list it shows a plug in the wall charger for the battery. Looks like onboard charging is still not available as a factory option. The starter still looks like it will work though.


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Simplexes with Non-Original Engines / Re: Honda GC 190 info
« on: April 17, 2016, 11:19:34 AM »
Charges from a USB source. That means it charges with 5VDC. I'd have to step down the voltage but it can be charged from the lighting coil. (Edit) actually all you need to charge it are the guts out of a "cigarette lighter" phone charger. That steps down from 12vdc to 5vcd. I'm not sure how many starts you would get out of it so I'd have to try and figure that out but I think it would be fine.

Eitek1 stands for Electrical and instrument technician #1.
That's what I started my career doing and the name is never "taken" so I still use it  ;)

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Simplexes with Non-Original Engines / Re: Honda GC 190 info
« on: April 17, 2016, 07:51:27 AM »
It seems to me that even if available, by the time you buy a starter, flywheel, and charging coils, and add a battery, you have added weight, cost and complexity to the bike.  Why not just use a kick start?  These motors fire up so easily, I would think they would start on the first kick 90% of the time.

I guess I don't have a great answer and you are correct that a kick starter is the obvious answer. My wife will probably end up riding this and I'd like to make it as easy as possible for her to enjoy. In addition, I like solving technical problems and helping folks. Even if I go with a kick start the information on if this is even possible will be available.

As far as a battery goes I was thinking about the newer lithium polymer batteries. I have one the size of an Iphone that will jump start my 4 cylinder car. It's pretty amazing. with something like that, the weight addition would be less. The net gain would be the weight of the starter and coils and should be around 5 or 6 pounds.

The battery looks like this...

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Simplexes with Non-Original Engines / Re: Honda GC 190 info
« on: April 16, 2016, 07:30:34 PM »
Here is a link to the news release.  http://news.honda.com/newsandviews/article.aspx?id=2003102849587

I called Kens artic cat parts and asked what piece of equipment the GC-190 was on but the guy just said lawn mowers or generators or something. I asked if the voltage listed for that starter was 12v. He said it didn't specify.

Something to note though is that the connector for the two starters in the link are very different. One of them looks just like the 120v starters on the snow blowers and the other doesn't at all.

I haven't had time to run the cross reference on the Amazon stuff yet.

Jason

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Simplexes with Non-Original Engines / Re: Honda GC 190 info
« on: April 16, 2016, 11:04:57 AM »
One of the users of the GC-QEA engine appears to be something made by arctic cat. The part number for the starter is STARTER MOTOR ASSY. 31200-Z0L-821

As part of the assembly it lists a part which is WIRE, TERMINAL GROUND 32222-Z0L-830 that is used to ground the negative side of the starter to the motor itself. This wouldn't be the case with a 120VAC starter. This starter almost has to be for a 12v application. At least that's how it looks.  Here is the link to the parts lists for that motor.

http://www.kenssportsarcticcatparts.com/oemparts/l/hen/50947552f8700230ac8cc388/gc190a-qea-parts

The parts lists don't show any charging coils for the flywheel. A news release that honda put out said they would have a motor that was started via the battery off of a rechargeable tool like a dewalt or something. Maybe this was it?

Also, I realize it's not the easy path. I also fully realize that I'm going to regret this later. Somehow... I can't seem to help myself.  ;D

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