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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2013, 12:23:55 PM »
I am 99% sure a flywheel and coils from a GX160/200 will work on these. I may pull the trigger on the parts today.

Stay tuned. :P

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2013, 01:06:19 PM »
let us know on that....its one of the reasons im not crazy about my HF212cc build...no altenator.

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2013, 01:32:53 PM »
let us know on that....its one of the reasons im not crazy about my HF212cc build...no altenator.

Plenty of GX clones available with lighting coils and electric start.
Rick

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2013, 03:15:14 PM »
Yes but the GC is a straight up engine with overhead cam and comes in smaller sizes under 200cc...be nice to have one with alternator

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #64 on: October 19, 2013, 04:22:41 PM »
Yes but the GC is a straight up engine with overhead cam and comes in smaller sizes under 200cc...be nice to have one with alternator


I am well aware of that.  I was addressing your complaint that you didn't have a lighting coil on your HF212.
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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #65 on: October 19, 2013, 05:17:49 PM »
Oh OK...that's true too..  We'll see what he comes up with

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2013, 05:27:01 PM »
Oh OK...that's true too..  We'll see what he comes up with

Yeah, hopefully the GX and GC flywheels and coils are interchangable, that would be sweet.  Another possibility for electricity would be a small belt driven generator.  I wonder if some early motorcycles had them?
Rick

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2013, 06:08:42 PM »
Maybe something like this would be workable :

http://tinyurl.com/kmswq5v

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2013, 07:11:59 PM »
I was also thinking about one of these alternators from a Kubota tractor. These are real small.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Permanent-Magnet-ALTERNATOR-for-KUBOTA-15531-64017-/360507813546

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2013, 08:16:23 PM »
The 1948 Mustang had one, Gramps
Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right,
There's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #70 on: October 20, 2013, 05:05:36 AM »
OK Gramps, that's the ticket!  Now, are they available?
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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #71 on: October 26, 2013, 02:37:55 PM »
I have the POWER!

Today I got the GX flywheel and coils in the mail. They fit and produce power. I am just running the coils directly to the lamps.

I purchased a flywheel and 2 lighting coils on ebay that are listed as fitting a GX160/200. I paid like $42 I think. The flywheel came with a starter ring attached. I had to remove it in order to clear the ign. coil. I then tapped the existing holes with a 6mmx1.00 tap and installed 6mmx30mm bolts.

These are listed as 3 amp coils. It looks to be juuuust enough to light two lamps.

Have a look at the initial install pics. I still need to button it all up.












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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #72 on: October 26, 2013, 03:44:49 PM »
Awesome info, thanks!  This is going to be one of my future projects, as I already have a frame, front end, wheels, and gas tank just sitting around! 

Does the balance of the flywheel appear to be the same as the GC flywheel?  Can you feel any difference when running?
Rick

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #73 on: October 26, 2013, 10:16:13 PM »
Awesome info, thanks!  This is going to be one of my future projects, as I already have a frame, front end, wheels, and gas tank just sitting around! 

Does the balance of the flywheel appear to be the same as the GC flywheel?  Can you feel any difference when running?

I have not had a chance to run it on the road yet. The GC was rough to begin with so I can't see how it could be any worse.

It looks like they did at least attempt to balance the flywheel. It has been drilled in various locations. 

I'll try and run it on Sunday if it's dry.

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Re: 56 with a Honda GC190 build thread
« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2013, 04:29:08 AM »
It seems to me all these Honda''s and clones vibrate quite a bit.  They get much better if you tie the cylinder head to the frame with an upper mount.
Rick