General Category => Frame, Tank, Seat, Controls, Etc => Topic started by: Bruce on March 05, 2014, 05:20:33 AM
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Anyone have a picture of what mounts the front of the seat? Before I get this covered I kinda need a look
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Carriage bolt. Slips into seat pan and secures to the seat leaf spring.
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Bruce ,
Here's a pic of my seat before I cleaned it . You can see where the bolt goes and the spacer . The spacer simply keeps the seat from riding on the frame leaf spring .
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1578.jpg)
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thanks guys...that what I thought...there had to be a spacer too.
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Not to say there shouldn't be a spacer, but I have never seen one on any bike I disassembled.
Pete, post the spec on the one you have.
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My seat would hit the spring bar without a spacer... I'd say something has to be there
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I'm pretty sure mine has a spacer. My seat is just like Pete's.
Mike Sal
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My Seat Pan looks the same.I mounted the seat without the Spacer ( didn't know there was supposed to have one).It doesn't hit the Leaf,but is extremely close.Be a simple thing to make.
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Bruce ,
Here's a pic of my seat before I cleaned it . You can see where the bolt goes and the spacer . The spacer simply keeps the seat from riding on the frame leaf spring .
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1578.jpg)
Is that an original cover?
Will
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That is a late model seat with plastic cover. I think the change over was around 1956. Most of the ones left these days are hard and cracked by age.
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My Seat Pan looks the same.I mounted the seat without the Spacer ( didn't know there was supposed to have one).It doesn't hit the Leaf,but is extremely close.Be a simple thing to make.
I wonder if the spacer was only used on the late, plastic seat covers, as the leather hugs the seat pan closer on the earlier models.
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That is a late model seat with plastic cover. I think the change over was around 1956. Most of the ones left these days are hard and cracked by age.
Two questions; is this pan the same as the leather covered one? Was there a smaller seat on earlier bikes?
Will
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Same seat pans, but without the holes drilled for the rivets to hold the leather on.
The very early bikes did use bike seats; I think they were made by Messenger.
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I think there were a total of 3 seat styles used over the years. According to the wollard book, Paul Treen sat on a pieced of construction paper & traced the outline of his rump on it & sent it to the seat company to make the seat tooling.
Mike Sal
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Rick ,
I don't have the bike here to measure the spacer , but , as I recall it's about 3/4" long and fairly heavy wall type material .
I don't see it listed in the M manual . The bolt seemed as original as the others , as did the spacer . I'm inclined to think it came from Simplex the way I bought it some 49 years ago .
Will ,
Yes . It's the original cover . Here's a cleaned version :
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1589.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1588.jpg)
Pete . :)
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Pete, is your seat cracked around the edges? I have one that has a split around the edge, about 2" long.
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My seat has a very small split on the side, more from the bike being dropped on it's side somewhere along the line rather than the material failing. It's not too noticeable. I figure if the original vinyl ever goes to pot, I'll re-do it in leather, but the chances are the vinyl will out live me.
Mike Sal
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Pete, is your seat cracked around the edges? I have one that has a split around the edge, about 2" long.
Rick ,
Yes , the cover has been what I think 'worn away' on the right side .
I noticed when I kick the lever that my leg rubs the edge of the seat , exactly where the cover is 'gone' .
You can see along the right rear 'fat' part of the seat the pan is sticking through .
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/pdcomm/Simplex/HPIM1588.jpg)
Pete . :)