seat mount

[Bruce]

Anyone have a picture of what mounts the front of the seat? Before I get this covered I kinda need a look

[Ricks]

Carriage bolt. Slips into seat pan and secures to the seat leaf spring.

[pd]

Bruce ,

Here's a pic of my seat before I cleaned it . You can see where the bolt goes and the spacer . The spacer simply keeps the seat from riding on the frame leaf spring .

[Bruce]

thanks guys...that what I thought...there had to be a spacer too.

[admin]

Not to say there shouldn't be a spacer, but I have never seen one on any bike I disassembled. 
Pete, post the spec on the one you have.

[Bruce]

My seat would hit the spring bar without a spacer... I'd say something has to be there

[Mike Sal]

I'm pretty sure mine has a spacer.  My seat is just like Pete's.
Mike Sal

[Jeff L]

My Seat Pan looks the same.I mounted the seat without the Spacer ( didn't know there was supposed to have one).It doesn't hit the Leaf,but is extremely close.Be a simple thing to make.

[WillH]

Bruce ,

Here's a pic of my seat before I cleaned it . You can see where the bolt goes and the spacer . The spacer simply keeps the seat from riding on the frame leaf spring .

Is that an original cover?

Will

[admin]

That is a late model seat with plastic cover.  I think the change over was around 1956.  Most of the ones left these days are hard and cracked by age.

[admin]

My Seat Pan looks the same.I mounted the seat without the Spacer ( didn't know there was supposed to have one).It doesn't hit the Leaf,but is extremely close.Be a simple thing to make.

I wonder if the spacer was only used on the late, plastic seat covers, as the leather hugs the seat pan closer on the earlier models.

[WillH]

That is a late model seat with plastic cover.  I think the change over was around 1956.  Most of the ones left these days are hard and cracked by age.

Two questions; is this pan the same as the leather covered one? Was there a smaller seat on earlier bikes?

Will

[admin]

Same seat pans, but without the holes drilled for the rivets to hold the leather on.

The very early bikes did use bike seats; I think they were made by Messenger.

[Mike Sal]

I think there were a total of 3 seat styles used over the years.  According to the wollard book, Paul Treen sat on a pieced of construction paper & traced the outline of his rump on it & sent it to the seat company to make the seat tooling.
Mike Sal

[pd]

Rick ,

I don't have the bike here to measure the spacer , but , as I recall it's about 3/4" long and fairly heavy wall type material .

I don't see it listed in the M manual . The bolt seemed as original as the others , as did the spacer . I'm inclined to think it came from Simplex the way I bought it some 49 years ago .

Will ,

Yes . It's the original cover . Here's a cleaned version :





Pete .