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pd

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During my boredom ...
« on: August 26, 2014, 11:26:00 AM »
During my boredom , I drew an idea or two and put them in my computer .

Just a rough idea of what could be :



Simply an extension / version of the slip throttle I now have .

Here's a slightly more advanced version :



I have a couple other things I'm working on to improve , but still retain the original 'flavor' of Simplex .

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 06:59:09 AM »
Thanks: I can use those drawings.

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 01:47:02 PM »
Great , Butch .
Glad they might do some good .
Let us know how things turn out . Maybe with a pic or two ? ;)

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2014, 06:18:50 PM »
Good thing I have my Simplex to dream about ...

What do you think of this ?



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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2017, 05:55:13 PM »
After even more time on my hands :



And here's another version with a slightly different approach for the activation 'system' :



???

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2017, 06:03:22 PM »
No comments ???

Good , bad or indifferent ? Not even a 'your pics are too small . I can't read the print' ?

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2017, 08:23:36 AM »
Do you think it would generate enough friction to effectively stop the tire?  For the actual brake material making contact with the tire, were you thinking metal?  How about bicycle brake pads? (the rubber shoe type used for bike rims)

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2017, 01:18:25 PM »
Hi Paul ,

I think it would , at least , slow the wheel rotation and hopefully more ,
being as the levers/contact 'pads' are planned to be a single steel unit on each side and the tire is rubber .
I thought about bike pads , but that combination ( rubber on rubber ) seems likely to wear quickly . Plus there isn't very much room between the fender and tire .
In case you didn't notice , the planned contact points are on the outside portions of the tread . I figure that that part rarely gets worn before the tire needs replacing .

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2017, 05:48:52 PM »
I like the center pull cable system better. Interesting idea!

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 02:16:37 PM »
Not that it's actually needed , but , here's a bit of overkill for rear wheel braking :



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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 02:48:33 PM »
Here's one marketed for Yamaha but, should work on a ServiCycle I'd think?  LOL

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2017, 03:23:33 PM »
Ha . That might just work , Paul . LOL

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2017, 05:59:44 AM »

I'm wondering if you would run into heating/warping issues on the sheave brake. It would take a while for heat buildup though due to the large circumference and "relatively" slow speed.

Also, you may be limited by the amount of force you can apply before being limited by the structural integrity of the sheave. What I mean by that is with a shoe in just one place on the circumference it would constantly be trying to push the sheave "off-center" so to speak.

Not saying it won't work (It most likely will) just trying to give food for thought.

Also, what program did you draw that with?

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2017, 06:53:53 AM »
"I'm wondering if you would run into heating/warping issues on the sheave brake. It would take a while for heat buildup though due to the large circumference and "relatively" slow speed."

I thought about that prior to drawing and came to the conclusion that most likely any friction generated heat would be  small to begin with and easily dissipated for the same reasons you state .

"Also, you may be limited by the amount of force you can apply before being limited by the structural integrity of the sheave. What I mean by that is with a shoe in just one place on the circumference it would constantly be trying to push the sheave "off-center" so to speak. "

Thought about that , too . That's the reason for the roller bearing that would ride on the flat of the belt simultaneously to the shoes pressing against the sheave . The sheave and belt would be pressed together . All that happening while the complete brake 'arm' floats or drifts , forward or back . So ,  the brake arm adjusts to where ever the sheave is .

"Also, what program did you draw that with?"

The drawings you see above were done using MS Paint . It's nothing fancy , but it's not bad for the price . ;)

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Re: During my boredom ...
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2017, 07:27:06 AM »
A band brake might also work.  I've seen them on old mini-bikes.